When College Breaks US Economy

$1.5 trillion in student debt is breaking students backs, but it could also break the U.S. economy. Steven and Faith Rothberg who join Chad and Julie for a look at how College affects the workforce and our economy. Is college too big of a business to fail? Are all colleges treated the same? Why aren’t […]

Will Indeed Drink Ad Agency Milkshake?

As the dog days of summer drag on, industry news remains hot, hot, HOT! This week, the boys discuss Indeed’s latest strategy to stick-it to recruitment ad agencies, as well as break down the latest buying spree of programmatic ad solutions and chat about Google’s latest strike against the likes of HackerRank and Github. Enjoy […]

Gerry Tales IV (Gerrymandering)

Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part IV of our interview on all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.

Recruiter Marketplace: Scout w/ CEO Ken Lazarus

One of the biggest stories from 2018 was recruiting software solution Scout getting $100 million in investment. The company is quietly becoming a force, so the boys decided to sit down with CEO Ken Lazarus to find out what’s going on. Enjoy this Uncommon exclusive.

What Can Two White Dudes Do About Diversity? (Video)

Part of our interview with Torin Ellis. Full video interview coming soon.

‘Job Board Summer Camp’ Sucks

It’s been a week since tearin’ shit up in London, and the boys are psyched to get back to the weekly round-up show. And the hits just keep on rollin’. This week, programmatic remains hot, Amazon says ‘there’s nothing to see here’ in light of strike / no strike news, and summer camps in London […]

Firing Squad: StaffUpApp

Do staffing firms need a native app for iPhones and Android devices? This startup certainly thinks so, but do the boys agree? Let’s just say it’s a house divided. Ready. Aim. Listen. And enjoy this Talroo exclusive.

The Chad & Cheese Recfest 2019 ‘Hype Video’

Before going on stage at Recfest 2019, this happened. ‘Murica! Special thanks to Talent Nexus for creating.

TMP Acquires Perengo

It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash

On to the NEWS for July 16st 2019..


We were talking about texting and chatbots – Now it’s a word most TA professionals can’t even spell… Programmatic…

That’s right StepStone starts their chess moves by taking AppCast — hands down the recruitment industries programmatic leader — App cast off the board, then Indeed strikes back with the acquisition of ClickIQ another known entity in the programmatic space and THEN TODAY TMP Worldwide buys Perengo another AI-driven programmatic platform, not as well-known as the first two, but who the hell cares? Really…

Michelle Abbey, CEO of TMP cites
“The acquisition of Perengo further advances our commitment to provide our clients with the most robust and efficient recruitment technology in the industry,”

“The combination of ambition and differentiating technology makes them (being Perengo) the perfect addition to both our team and our platform.”

Mike Kofi Okyere CEO of Perengo moves to Chief Product & Strategy Officer at TMP Worldwide. Hopefully his ascent to this position means we’ll all know how in the hell to pronounce his name.

But seriously, Mike seems to have experience steeped in sales, product, and tech.

These types of acquisitions are setting the table for HUGE strategic moves in our industry. Not too mention the very tactical and everyday move from duration to performance-based ads. FINALLY!!

But, will everyone play nice and keep the playing field open?

or will defensive postures win the day as walled gardens go up driving the market to make very hard choices?

Tune into our latest Chad and Cheese podcast – dropped just yesterday – where sit down with Rob Prince from Talent Nexus and talk Appcast and ClickIQ… Just look for the podcast called Indeed Strikes Back!

And obviously tune in this Friday for even more deep opinion and snark around TMP, Perengo and much more.

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Save Strikes Back

When Stepstone acquired Appcast, the boys wondered why Indeed failed to snatch-up programmatic’s most well-known and successful companies. Maybe Indeed wasn’t even interested. Turns out, they were, as proven by the recent announcement that they acquired second-rate competitor, ClickIQ. In this episode, the guys bring in some special guests to get to the bottom of […]

Gerry Tales III (Beyond Thunderdome)

Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part III of our interview all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.

We Love the Smell of Acquisitions in the Morning

The week of July 4th is usually pretty slow, but there were plenty of fireworks this year. Aside from a big acquisition, Facebook, Walmart and Hallmark are in the news, as well as a segment on rainbow-colored flags and the companies that say they support them, but in reality, not-so-much. Try not to choke on […]

Recfest 2019: British / U.S. Relations are Headed for a New Low

With Recfest 2019 a little over a week away in London, what better way for Chad & Cheese to pregame than to get the show’s masterminds, Jamie Leonard and Joe Slavin? The boys breakdown the show and give listeners a sneak-peek into the havoc that is about to invade English shores.

Gerry Tales II (Electric Boogaloo)

Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part II of our interview all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Uncommon some love.